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The Christmas Hoax: Jesus is NOT the "Reason for the Season"
by Acharya S
The December 25th birthday of the sun god is a common motif globally, dating back at least 12,000 years as reflected in winter solstices artfully recorded in caves. "Nearly all nations," says Doane, commemorated the birth of the god Sol to the "Queen of Heaven" and "Celestial Virgin." The winter solstice was celebrated in countless places, including China and Persia, the latter regarding the solar Lord and Savior Mithra's birth. The winter solstice festival in Egypt included the babe in a manger brought out of the sanctuary.
Ancient Greeks celebrated the birthday of Hercules and Dionysus on this date, as the ancient authority Macrobius (c. 400 AD/CE) maintained. Even the Greek father god, Zeus, was supposedly born at the winter solstice. The "Christmas" festival was celebrated at Athens and was called "the Lenaea," during which time, apparently, "the death and rebirth of the harvest infant Dionysus were similarly dramatized." This Lenaea festival is depicted in an Aurignacian cave-painting in Spain, with a "young Dionysus with huge genitals," standing naked in the middle of "nine dancing women." The Aurignacian period extended from 34,000 to 23,000 years ago.
The Greco-Syrian sun god Adonis--the "Adonai" of the Bible--was also born on December 25th, a festival "spoken of by Tertullian, Jerome, and other Fathers of the Church, who inform us that the ceremonies took place in a cave, and that the cave in which they celebrated his mysteries in Bethlehem, was that in which Christ Jesus was born."
Nor is the winter solstice celebration a purely "Pagan" concept, as the Jews also observed it in reference to the birth of their god, Yahweh. The "Feast of Illumination," "Feast of Lights" or "feast of the Dedication," occurred in winter (John 10:22-23; Josephus's Antiquities XIII, 7.7) and represented the "ancient Hebrew Winter Solstice Feast." The legend of Chanukah was created by the Talmudist authors in order "to conceal the antiquity of the feast, which was originally Jehovah's birthday as the Sun-God." Moreover, this solar birthday dates back to "at least as early as the time of Nehemiah (Maccabees, I, 18)."
Indians for millennia have celebrated the winter solstice, as a cardinal point, the new year and, presumably, the birth of the sun god. In the Indian solstice celebration--a "great religious festival"--there is "rejoicing everywhere." As in the West, the Indian "decorate their houses with garlands, and make presents to friends and relatives," a "custom of very great antiquity." One way the Brahman priests of Orissa have celebrated the solstice is by carrying images of "the youthful Krishna to the houses of their disciples and their patrons, to whom they present some of the red powder and tar of roses, and receive presents of money and cloth in return." Thus, in India the winter solstice has been as much a major holiday as it was anywhere, which is to be expected in a land permeated with sun worship for millennia.
Regarding the Persian sun god Mithra and his sacrifice, in the 19th century respected Christian author Rev. J.P. Lundy remarked:
"For let it be borne in mind that it was precisely at the season of this sacrifice, near the beginning of the new year, that the birth of Mithra was celebrated over all Persia and the world, in temple-caves, on the night of the 24th of December, the night of light. Even the British Druids celebrated it, and called the next day, the 25th of December, Nollagh or Noel, the day of regeneration, celebrating it with great fires on tops of their mountains. In fact, all nations, as if by common consent, at the first moment after midnight of the 24th of December, celebrated the birth of the sun-god, type among the Gentiles of Christ, the Incarnate Son of God, as the Desire of all nations and the Saviour of the world."
Lundy was thus well aware of the sun gods, whom he deemed "types of Christ," indicating Christ's solar nature as well.
Concerning the winter solstice festival in Ireland, the author of "Christian Mythology Unveiled" relates:
"The Baal-fire feast, or meeting, was a great festival in Ireland, on the 25th of December, and midsummer eve. Baal, or Bel, was a name of the sun all over the east."
It is important to note that the "December 25th" birthdate only applies to the age and hemisphere in which the winter solstice falls on December 21-24. In other ages, the solstice month is different, changing with the precession of the equinoxes every 2150 years.
The December 25th birthdate is that of the sun, not a "real person," revealing its unoriginality within Christianity and the true nature of the Christian godman. "Christmas" was not incorporated into Christianity until 354 AD/CE. In reality, there is no evidence, no primary sources which show that "Jesus is the reason for the season."
Happy Solstice!
Excerpted from "Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha & Christ Unveiled"
Enjoy the book & DVD 'Suns of god' - www.truthbeknown.com/sunsofgod.htm
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p.s. Christmas was not recognized by the U.S. gov't because it was considered too PAGAN. The holiday wasn't recognized until the 1860's. Even then, it was only recognized by 11 states.
by Acharya S
The December 25th birthday of the sun god is a common motif globally, dating back at least 12,000 years as reflected in winter solstices artfully recorded in caves. "Nearly all nations," says Doane, commemorated the birth of the god Sol to the "Queen of Heaven" and "Celestial Virgin." The winter solstice was celebrated in countless places, including China and Persia, the latter regarding the solar Lord and Savior Mithra's birth. The winter solstice festival in Egypt included the babe in a manger brought out of the sanctuary.
Ancient Greeks celebrated the birthday of Hercules and Dionysus on this date, as the ancient authority Macrobius (c. 400 AD/CE) maintained. Even the Greek father god, Zeus, was supposedly born at the winter solstice. The "Christmas" festival was celebrated at Athens and was called "the Lenaea," during which time, apparently, "the death and rebirth of the harvest infant Dionysus were similarly dramatized." This Lenaea festival is depicted in an Aurignacian cave-painting in Spain, with a "young Dionysus with huge genitals," standing naked in the middle of "nine dancing women." The Aurignacian period extended from 34,000 to 23,000 years ago.
The Greco-Syrian sun god Adonis--the "Adonai" of the Bible--was also born on December 25th, a festival "spoken of by Tertullian, Jerome, and other Fathers of the Church, who inform us that the ceremonies took place in a cave, and that the cave in which they celebrated his mysteries in Bethlehem, was that in which Christ Jesus was born."
Nor is the winter solstice celebration a purely "Pagan" concept, as the Jews also observed it in reference to the birth of their god, Yahweh. The "Feast of Illumination," "Feast of Lights" or "feast of the Dedication," occurred in winter (John 10:22-23; Josephus's Antiquities XIII, 7.7) and represented the "ancient Hebrew Winter Solstice Feast." The legend of Chanukah was created by the Talmudist authors in order "to conceal the antiquity of the feast, which was originally Jehovah's birthday as the Sun-God." Moreover, this solar birthday dates back to "at least as early as the time of Nehemiah (Maccabees, I, 18)."
Indians for millennia have celebrated the winter solstice, as a cardinal point, the new year and, presumably, the birth of the sun god. In the Indian solstice celebration--a "great religious festival"--there is "rejoicing everywhere." As in the West, the Indian "decorate their houses with garlands, and make presents to friends and relatives," a "custom of very great antiquity." One way the Brahman priests of Orissa have celebrated the solstice is by carrying images of "the youthful Krishna to the houses of their disciples and their patrons, to whom they present some of the red powder and tar of roses, and receive presents of money and cloth in return." Thus, in India the winter solstice has been as much a major holiday as it was anywhere, which is to be expected in a land permeated with sun worship for millennia.
Regarding the Persian sun god Mithra and his sacrifice, in the 19th century respected Christian author Rev. J.P. Lundy remarked:
"For let it be borne in mind that it was precisely at the season of this sacrifice, near the beginning of the new year, that the birth of Mithra was celebrated over all Persia and the world, in temple-caves, on the night of the 24th of December, the night of light. Even the British Druids celebrated it, and called the next day, the 25th of December, Nollagh or Noel, the day of regeneration, celebrating it with great fires on tops of their mountains. In fact, all nations, as if by common consent, at the first moment after midnight of the 24th of December, celebrated the birth of the sun-god, type among the Gentiles of Christ, the Incarnate Son of God, as the Desire of all nations and the Saviour of the world."
Lundy was thus well aware of the sun gods, whom he deemed "types of Christ," indicating Christ's solar nature as well.
Concerning the winter solstice festival in Ireland, the author of "Christian Mythology Unveiled" relates:
"The Baal-fire feast, or meeting, was a great festival in Ireland, on the 25th of December, and midsummer eve. Baal, or Bel, was a name of the sun all over the east."
It is important to note that the "December 25th" birthdate only applies to the age and hemisphere in which the winter solstice falls on December 21-24. In other ages, the solstice month is different, changing with the precession of the equinoxes every 2150 years.
The December 25th birthdate is that of the sun, not a "real person," revealing its unoriginality within Christianity and the true nature of the Christian godman. "Christmas" was not incorporated into Christianity until 354 AD/CE. In reality, there is no evidence, no primary sources which show that "Jesus is the reason for the season."
Happy Solstice!
Excerpted from "Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha & Christ Unveiled"
Enjoy the book & DVD 'Suns of god' - www.truthbeknown.com/sunsofgod.htm
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p.s. Christmas was not recognized by the U.S. gov't because it was considered too PAGAN. The holiday wasn't recognized until the 1860's. Even then, it was only recognized by 11 states.
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Re: 'The Christmas Hoax'
Fri, December 9, 2005 - 1:16 PMthe jewish religion does not celebrate hanukah as the birth of any god. its the rememberance of "the miracle" of the pot of oil to light thier oil lamps that lasted 8 days when the romans had invaded jerusalum. hence the "menorah" has 8 places to place candles symbolizing those 8 days trapped in the temple in jerusalum. (where the wailling wall now stands, the western wall) -
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Fri, December 9, 2005 - 2:40 PMthe Jews also observed it in reference to the birth of their god, Yahweh. The "Feast of Illumination," "Feast of Lights" or "feast of the Dedication," occurred in winter (John 10:22-23; Josephus's Antiquities XIII, 7.7) and represented the "ancient Hebrew Winter Solstice Feast." The legend of Chanukah was created by the Talmudist authors in order "to conceal the antiquity of the feast, which was originally Jehovah's birthday as the Sun-God." Moreover, this solar birthday dates back to "at least as early as the time of Nehemiah (Maccabees, I, 18)." -
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Thu, December 15, 2005 - 3:43 PMHistory of Research into Solar Mythology and the Bible
The knowledge that the stories in the Bible are actually allegories rooted in Solar Mythology is nothing new. There is evidence that people were well aware of it at the time of the formation of the Catholic Church. There is also evidence that these people were eliminated by the Catholic Church and all books exposing the allegory were burned.
Charles François Dupuis (1742-1809) wrote extensively on the subject. Chapter IX of his summary work, The Origin of All Religious Worship first published in 1798, is titled, An Explanation of the Fable, in which the Sun is worshipped under the name of Christ (starting on page 214). Chapter XII of this same work gives the Solar Mythology explanation of the Book of Revelation [also known as The Apocalypse] (starting on page 408). The Book of Revelation is just Solar Mythology, and makes sense as such, and doesn't make any sense in any other way.
Constantin François de Volney (1757-1820) also wrote about Solar Mythology and the Bible. Chapter XIII of his principal work, The Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires first published in 1791, is titled, Christianity, or the Allegorical Worship of the Sun under the cabalistic names of Chrish-en or Christ and Yesus or Jesus.
Rev. Robert Taylor (1784-1844) also figured it out. In 1828 he wrote Syntagma of the Evidences of the Christian Religion the Preface reads, “Thou hast in this Pamphlet all the sufficient evidence, that can be adduced for any piece of history a thousand years old, or to prove an error of a thousand years standing, that such a person as Jesus Christ never existed; but that the earliest Christians meant the words to be nothing more than a personification of the principle of reason, of goodness, or that principle, be it what it may, which may most benefit mankind in the passage through life.”
In 1829 Rev. Robert Taylor published a thorough book on Comparative Religion titled The Diegesis; Being a Discovery of the Origin, Evidences, and Early History of Christianity, Never Yet Before or Elsewhere So Fully and Faithfully Set Forth.
In 1830-1831 Rev. Robert Taylor published Devil's Pulpit: Or Astro-Theological Sermons (vols. 1 and 2).
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Solar Mythology and the Jesus Story
1. History — There is not a shred of legitimate historical evidence anywhere that the Jesus Story originated as the biography of a man named Jesus, and quite a lot of evidence that it did not. This has already been thoroughly covered elsewhere by other people.
2. Comparative Religion — The basic plot of the Jesus Story, including the motif of a crucified savior, already existed in many other religions long prior to the alleged time of Jesus. This also has been thoroughly covered elsewhere by other people.
3. Solar Mythology — The Jesus Story is actually an allegory for what would naturally be the oldest and most important story humans would notice and write down, that of the annual passage of the seasons of the year. The position of the Sun against the celestial sphere changes during the year.
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Wed, December 21, 2005 - 5:37 AMNor is the winter solstice celebration a purely "Pagan" concept, as the
Jews also observed it in reference to the birth of their god, Yahweh.
The "Feast of Illumination," "Feast of Lights" or "feast of the
Dedication," occurred in winter (John 10:22-23; Josephus's Antiquities
XIII, 7.7) and represented the "ancient Hebrew Winter Solstice Feast."
Regarding this Hannukah feast, in "The White Goddess" (469),
mythologist Robert Graves says:
"The rabbinical account is that this eight-day festival which begins on
the twenty-fifth day of the month Kislev, was instituted by Judas
Maccabeus and that it celebrates a miracle: at the Maccabean
consecration of the Temple a small cruse of sacred oil was found,
hidden by a former High Priest, which lasted for eight days. By this
legend the authors of the Talmud hoped to conceal the antiquity of the
feast, which was originally Jehovah's birthday as the Sun-god and had
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Wed, December 21, 2005 - 6:16 AMLibrary of Congress: Christmas hoax
I did some research at the Library of Congress to verify some information about Christmas. Here's what I found.
In his book "The Battle for Christmas," Stephen Nissembaum notes that at
first, before the U.S. had an established national government, Christmas
was opposed by many local governments, such as those in New England:
"In New England, for the first two centuries of white settlement most
people did not celebrate Christmas. In fact, the holiday was
systematically suppressed by the Puritans during the colonial period and largely ignored by their descendants. It was actually illegal to celebrate
Christmas in Massachusetts between 1659 and 1681 (the fine was five
shillings). Only in the middle of the nineteenth century did Christmas gain
legal recognition as an official public holiday in New England" (3).
Nissembaum also notes that "most of the other states" did not "grant
legal recognition to Christmas until the middle of the nineteenth
century" (3).
Nissembaum then explains why there was such opposition to celebrating
Christmas at the time:
"Why? What accounts for this strange hostility? The Puritans themselves had a plain reason for what they tried to do, and it happened to be
a perfectly good one: There is no biblical or historical reason to
place the birth of Jesus on December 25" (4).
Nissembaum writes that the Puritans were quick to point out a related
reason for objecting to Christmas celebrations:
"Christmas was nothing but a pagan festival covered with a Christian
veneer. The Reverend Increase Mather of Boston, for example, accurately
observed in 1687 that the early Christians who first observed the Nativity on December 25 did not do so 'thinking that Christ was born in that Month, but because the Heathens Saturnalia was at that time kept in Rome, and they were willing to have those Pagan Holidays metamorphosed into Christian [ones]'" (4).
It does appear, then, that part of the reason Christmas was not always
celebrated by certain religious groups such as the Puritans until the
19th century was because of what many people deemed its underlying pagan roots. The opposition to Christmas was not universal, however. In his book "The American Christmas: A Study in National Culture," James H.
Barnett notes:
"Few American are aware that large groups of colonists objected to
Christmas during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. Many loathed it
as an 'abomination' even though others observed the occasion as a
religious feast. In general, Puritans, Baptists, Presbyterians, and Quakers
strongly opposed the religious observance of Christmas, but members of
the Church of England, the Dutch Reformed, Lutheran, and Roman Catholic
churches, as well as the German sects, carefully followed their
traditional celebrations. Religious, ethnic, and national ties were
intermixed in defining attitudes toward the festival" (2).
If you would like to explore in more depth to what extent the celebration of Christmas has been opposed in American history, and how much of this opposition was due to what people perceived as the "paganism" of
Christmas, we suggest you review the first three books in our Works Cited
list at the end of this response. You can check for the books at your
local library, and if they aren't available there, a librarian should be able to request them for you through interlibrary loan.
By the mid-nineteenth century, Christmas became more accepted in the
United States. Stephen Nissembaum writes that "by 1865, twenty-seven out
of thirty-six stated (along with four territories) had set December 25 apart as a day when certain kinds of ordinary business could not legally be transacted" (308). In addition, "of the twenty-four states that joined the United States no later than 1820 . . . by 1865 all but five had made December 25 a legal holiday" (308).
As for the order of legal recognition of Christmas, Nissembaum writes:
"The slave South seems to have been the laggard in this matter. Not
New England, surely--all six states in that supposedly Puritan region on
the country had recognized Christmas between 1846 and 1861. . . . To
be sure, the pattern was not universal. The first three states to legalize Christmas all permitted slavery" (308).
When did the federal government first declared Christmas a federal holiday?
Restad writes that in June 1870:
"For the first time in its history, the United States Congress declared
Christmas a federal holiday. Although the act's stated purpose was the
regulation of fiscal matters on several holidays, the law nonetheless
formally endorsed the importance of a holiday that had been developing
in the homes and sensibilities of the nation's citizenry for half a
century" (104).
Also, a 1999 Congressional Research Service Report, "Federal Holidays:
Evolution and Application," notes on page one that this act was passed
on June 28, 1870. You can find this report online in PDF format on the
U.S. Senate website at:
www.senate.gov/reference/...olidays.pdf >
You can view full text of the act online through the Library's American
Memory collection "A Century of Lawmaking" at:
memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage
The official title of the act is "An Act Making the first Day of January, the twenty-fifth Day of December, the fourth Day of July, and Thanksgiving Day, Holidays, with the District of Columbia."
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Wed, December 21, 2005 - 6:50 PMuhh, im gonna have to back up lateralus on this, being that i was educated in a yeshiva. channukah is a celebration for the fact that the oil lasted for 8 nights (and is written that it shouldnt have lasted that long) during the time of attack of the romans during the second(i think second?) beis hamikdash aka TEMPLE. -
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Sun, December 25, 2005 - 6:42 PMi agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. i also think that there is fact and bullshit. if someone wants an authority for of information for channukah, they would ask a rabbi, and a reputable one at that. just like in any profession or study. get ya facts straight from the source. not some online jews for jesus site. not that theres anything wrong with jews for jesus. but ya'll know EXACTLY what im saying. -
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Mon, December 26, 2005 - 5:57 AMmaybe you missed this part ... "The rabbinical account is..."
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Sat, December 31, 2005 - 11:50 AM"WHY THE CHURCH PICKED DEC-25 FOR JESUS' BIRTHDAY" -
This date was chosen, and remains, the traditional date for followers of many different Pagan religions to celebrate the rebirth of the sun. It was seen as a promise that warmth would return once more to the earth. Numerous pre-Christian Pagan religions honored their gods' birth or rebirth on or about that day. Their deities were typically called: Son of Man, Light of the World, Sun of Righteousness, Bridegroom, and Savior. Some examples are:
* ANCIENT EGYPT: The god-man/savior Osiris died and was entombed on DEC-21. Worship of Osiris, and celebration of his DEC-25 birth, were established throughout the Roman Empire.
* Roman Pagan Religion: Attis was a son of the virgin Nana. His birth was celebrated on DEC-25. He was sacrificed as an adult in order to bring salvation to mankind.
* Greek Pagan Religion: Dionysus is another savior-god whose birth was observed on DEC-25.
* Persian Pagan Religion: Mithra was believed to have been born on DEC-25, circa 500 BCE. His birth was witnessed by shepherds and by gift-carrying Magi. This was celebrated as the "Dies Natalis Solic Invite," The "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun."
* The Babylonians celebrated their "Victory of the Sun-God" Festival on DEC-25.
www.religioustolerance.org/xmas_sel.htm
* Prehistoric Europe: Many remains of ancient stone structures can be found in Europe. Some date back many millennia BCE. Some appear to have religious/astronomical purposes; others are burial tombs. These structures were built before writing was developed. One can only speculate on the significance of the winter solstice to the builders. Two examples are:
* In Maeshowe, (Orkneys, Scotland) there is a chambered cairn built on a leveled area with a surrounding bank and ditch. It has been carbon dated at 2750 BCE. Inside the cairn is a stone structure with a long entry tunnel. The structure is aligned so that sunlight can shine along the entry passage into the interior of the megalith, and illuminate the back of the structure. This happens at sunrise at the winter solstice.
* One of the most impressive prehistoric monuments in Europe is at Newgrange, in Brugh-na-Boyne, County Meath, in eastern Ireland. Above the entrance way is a stone box that allows the light from the sun to penetrate to the back of the cairn at sunrise on the winter solstice. It has been dated at about 3,300 BCE.
www.religioustolerance.org/wint...e.htm
"Archaeoastronomy Links Stone-Age Tomb Builders With Sun"
www.spacedaily.com/news/arc...-03a.html
Winter solstice sunrise in Newgrange 3600-3100 BC
www.knowth.com/loughcrew.htm
Mithra: The Pagan Christ - "Mithra or Mitra is even worshipped as Itu (Mitra-Mitu-Itu) in every house of the Hindus in India. Itu (derivative of Mitu or Mitra) is considered as the Vegetation-deity. This Mithra or Mitra (Sun-God) is believed to be a Mediator between God and man, between the Sky and the Earth. It is said that Mithra or [the] Sun took birth in the Cave on December 25th. It is also the belief of the Christian world that Mithra or the Sun-God was born of [a] Virgin. He travelled far and wide. He has twelve satellites, which are taken as the Sun's disciples.... [The Sun's] great festivals are observed in the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox--Christmas and Easter. His symbol is the Lamb...."
~ Swami Prajnanananda
Similar to so many other christ figures, some of them were crucified or hung on a tree, stake, or cross etc.
~ from a different thread, Iasion "Now, do you REALLY, truly believe that the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA supports Acharya S that Jesus is a solar myth, based on earlier myths? I do NOT think you actually believe the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA agrees that Jesus is just a recycled solar myth."
"What profit has not that fable of Christ brought us!" ~ Pope Leo X
* For your edification, "solstice" is Latin for "suns stands still." Easily verified by going to dictionary.
** From the CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA:
"Sunday was kept holy in honour of Mithra, and the sixteenth of each
month was sacred to him as mediator. The 25 December was observed as
his birthday, the natalis invicti, the rebirth of the winter-sun, unconquered by the rigours of the season."
www.newadvent.org/cathen/10402a.htm
*** Notice the word "REBIRTH," which means that the sun was perceived to
have died.
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