Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

topic posted Mon, January 17, 2005 - 9:03 PM by  Rocky
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G'day,

Anyone else heard about Solar Mythology, Astrotheology & how it directly relates to religions around the world today? Sun symbolism goes back as we have ever known right through to this present day. Yet, most folks aren't aware of what Solar symbolism is even though we are surrounded by it.

- Solar Mythology & Astrotheology -

"It is abundantly evident that mankind's predominant religious worship globally for many thousands of years has been Astronomical and Astrological, and that this Astrotheology has continued within the faiths popular today. These facts, however, have been hidden under a cloak of historicity, with the Astromythological players being presented as "real people".
One who understands the Solar Mythology or Astrotheology is one who knows the nature of "godhead" and the divine. Without this knowledge, humanity continues to wallow in erroneous concepts that blind it to its unity and allow for dangerous divisiveness."

"The Suns of god" - page 141

www.truthbeknown.com/sunsofgod.htm

This book is an excellent resource!!!

www.amazon.com/exec/obido...956-2269628

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You gotta see this animation -

members.cox.net/deleyd/rel...th/day.html

A few photos -

www.bluehoney.org/SunWorship.htm

--------- SUN WORSHIP ------


members.cox.net/deleyd/rel.../bookr.html - BOOKS

smithbrad.nventure.com/sunworship.htm

members.cox.net/deleyd/rel...ist2002.htm

- Constantine -

www.crosscircle.com/CH_2f.htm

library.flawlesslogic.com/frazer_2.htm

www.nisbett.com/holidays/c...worship.htm

www.aloha.net/~mikesch/monstr.htm

www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm


There is so much more!!!!!!!!!

Peace
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Rocky
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  • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

    Tue, January 18, 2005 - 9:17 AM
    You've got to be kidding me.

    Why?
    • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

      Tue, January 18, 2005 - 1:11 PM
      He's a "true believer."

      Don't bother trying to converse though, he'll just delete the thread and repost this spam.
      • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

        Tue, January 18, 2005 - 5:44 PM
        "Don't bother trying to converse though"

        I didn't. He's so much easier to ignore.
        • Unsu...
           

          Everybody take a deep breath

          Wed, January 19, 2005 - 7:20 AM
          Okay, it takes two to tango, so they say, and it appears that we have our fair share of dancers here. A reminder to *everyone* in the Agnostics tribe of some protocol:

          - you're free to post whatever you want so long as it's relevant (or even peripherally relevant) to the theme of agnosticism and agnostics

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          If we follow these guidelines, the Tribe can remain open and self-policing. It'll also keep the discussions up to a high standard.

          Let's keep the Agnostics Tribe on track. It's turning out to be one of the best tribes at Tribe.net, and I'm sure all of us would like to keep it that way.

          Best,
          George
      • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

        Wed, January 19, 2005 - 9:06 AM
        Swarm,

        I'm not talking about belief, I'm talking about action. I really wish I hadn't missed the original post so I could have seen the discussion that ensued.

        What I'm wondering, is why this is the third time this has been put up. And it's not spam - he's not selling anything, he's posting links to information. Nevertheless, IMO, it's abusive to the integrity of the tribe, and to it's guidelines, to take the *action* he has. Again, I missed the original post, so without knowing what ensued that caused him to re-post I'm lacking perspective, but I think it's safe to assume, after reading the second, also now deleted post, that it was simply because of the argument.

        Regardless of what the argument was, why it manifested, or who said what, I find the action of deleting and reposting in the manner he has abusive, as I mentioned already here. I'm big on tollerance and acceptance, but should intollerance be tolerated and accepted?
        • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

          Wed, January 19, 2005 - 10:07 AM
          The abuse in this case comes from swarm with personnal, ad hominem attacks against me for bringing this topic into this forum. There was no debate. That is a lie. It was however a long lecture on Atheism & Agnosticism which was derogatory & not necessary. swarms comments were uncivil, inconsiderate & as George warned - "Don't allow yourself to get egged on by personal attacks, teasing, or sarcasm." & I did, & after an e from George felt compelled on my own to delete the thread again. I felt the need to police my own thread & do not regret it. I think swarm has shown an inability to post in this thread without being uncivil, inconsiderate etc.

          As Dub mentioned, my post is not spam in any way & if you'll notice I haven't even shared my opinion one way or another. I brought it here as an interesting topic to be pondered upon. The topic has Atheist, Agnostic & religious aspects to it. swarm challenged my right to even bring this topic into this forum at all. That is exactly what I found to be most abuseful.

          Again, I don't know why George didn't mention it but, if swarm doesn't like the thread, no one is forcing swarm to post.

          Peace
          • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

            Wed, January 19, 2005 - 10:32 AM
            Again, I lack perspective considering I hadn't read anything on the first thread.

            < "There was no debate. That is a lie. It was however a long lecture on Atheism & Agnosticism which was derogatory & not necessary." >

            Without having seen the original comments, I can't say either way whether Swarm was challenging you or the theories you've referenced.

            Regardless of whether he challenged the theories or you, Deleting and reposting, IMO, is abusive to the integrity of this forum. If Swarm also abused the integrity of the forum by challenging you, rather than the theories you refferenced, then that is what it is. It does not, IMO, warrant deleting the thread just to repost it. If you're unhappy with what had manifested, you should have simply deleted the thread. Reposting it however, to remove any unwanted replies, IMO, is displaying your impudence.
  • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

    Fri, April 8, 2005 - 9:29 PM
    All belief in gods is self-serving, in my opinon.

    If it makes you feel good to believe what others believe, then enjoy! Honest! I'm not flaming you at all. In fact, I don't see that you explicitly stated what you believe, so maybe you agree with me and don't believe this stuff either.

    Life is about finding happiness, in my opinion. I

    Thousands of years of lemmings jumping into the sea still won't convince *me* to do the same; similarly, the mere fact that so many before me have believed one way or another is not a compelling argument for me to believe the same way.

    If I am anything, I am an independent thinker. If there is a God, I think he loves me precisely because I won't submit to the groupthink of religion, and I am trying to form my own, unique relationship with Him. One that doesn't include oppression. Some of those sun-worshipers sacrificed humans, remember?

    "One who understands the Solar Mythology or Astrotheology is one who knows the nature of "godhead" and the divine. Without this knowledge, humanity continues to wallow in erroneous concepts that blind it to its unity and allow for dangerous divisiveness."

    Isn't it the people who believe in their gods that are causing so many of our world's problems these days? We're practically in a world-war between Islam and Christian zealots. If that isn't dangerous divisiveness, I don't know what is. See, I'm a member of numerous communities, none of them religious, and the kind of "unity" you write about is quite present in them. So, I suppose what you write might be true for everyone else, but it doesn't jive at all with my experience.

    I think I am much more moral than the christians who support Bush's illegal war on Iraq enough to elect him again, and I don't need a preacher to tell me right from wrong. In fact, I pity people who are so addicted to their religion that it has taken over their lives, their thinking, their relationships, their heart. How is it different from a drug addiction? Or a cult? When it ends free will, it isn't healthy.

    But, that's just my opinion. I'm agnostic. If there is any kind of god, and who really knows, then I can't imagine He'd be too happy about all the killing in His name. Or, if He is happy about it, then I'm glad I don't follow His teachings, because I choose not to be a murderer over a matter of unprovable faith.

    Peace
    • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

      Sat, April 9, 2005 - 10:49 AM
      I'll agree with you hoco.

      I'm Agnostic & lean towards strong Atheism from time to time. I share the info in this thread for information purposes. It should be available to everyone. Especially christians & other religious folks. Why don't they talk about this on church SUN-day. It might be more interesting.

      I enjoy being a Freethinker.
      • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

        Fri, April 15, 2005 - 11:51 AM
        Hey Chop, I am really failing to understand your agenda. You claim to be an agnostic freethinker and yet said this; "One who understands the Solar Mythology or Astrotheology is one who knows the nature of "godhead" and the divine. Without this knowledge, humanity continues to wallow in erroneous concepts that blind it to its unity and allow for dangerous divisiveness."

        You are claiming to have knowledge about the godhead and the divine, whereas the term agnostic implies no knowledge (a=no, gnostic=knowledge) specifically about God. So why are you trying to misrepresent yourself and what really is your agenda?

        I don't think anyone in this tribe is all that interested in studying some obscure religion. No doubt this one would be as easy to logically tear apart as any other religion, but what would be the point?
        • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

          Fri, April 15, 2005 - 12:17 PM
          Hey Rene,

          Look at that again ... it is a quote from a book. I think I'm beginning to see why so many are having such a misunderstanding on this. I'm glad that you asked such an honest question before making any assumptions.

          The point, in the book "Suns of god" points out all the details very clearly. Maybe I should have added a bit more. Maybe this will sum it up a little ...

          "OK, a little quiz. Who am I talking about?

          He was born to a virgin by immaculate conception through the intervention of a holy spirit. This fulfilled an ancient prophecy. When he was born the ruling tyrant wanted to kill him. His parents had to flee to safety. All male children under the age of two were slain by the ruler as he sought to kill the child. Angels and shepherds were at his birth and he was given gifts of gold, frankincense and myrrh. He was worshipped as the saviour of men and led a moral and humble life. He performed miracles which included healing the sick, giving sight to the blind, casting out devils and raising the dead.He was put to death on the cross between two thieves. He descended to hell and rose from the dead to ascend back to heaven.

          Sounds exactly like Jesus doesn’t it? But it’s not. That is how they described the Eastern saviour god known as Khrishna 1,200 years before Jesus is claimed to have been born. If you want a saviour god who died so our sins could be forgiven, take your pick from the ancient world because there are a stream of them. Here are just some of the ‘Son of God’ heroes who play the lead role in stories which mirror those attributed to Jesus and almost all were worshipped long before Jesus was even heard of:

          Khrishna of Hindostan; Buddha Sakia of India; Salivahana of Bermuda; Osiris and Horus of Egypt; Odin of Scandinavia; Crite of Chaldea; Zoroaster of Persia; Baal and Taut of Phoenicia; Indra of Tibet; Bali of Afghanistan; Jao of Nepal; Wittoba of Bilingonese; Tammuz of Syria and Babylon; Attis of Phrygia; Xamolxis of Thrace; Zoar of the Bonzes; Adad of Assyria; Deva Tat and Sammonocadam of Siam; Alcides of Thebes; Mikado of the Sintoos; Beddru of Japan; Hesus or Eros, and Bremrillahm, of the Druids; Thor, son of Odin, of the Gauls; Cadmus of Greece; Hil and Feta of Mandaites; Gentaut and Quetzalcoatl of Mexico; Universal Monarch of the Sibyls; Ischy of Formosa; Divine Teacher of Plato; Holy One of Xaca; Fohi and Tien of China; Adonis, son of virgin lo, of Greece; Ixion and Quirinus of Rome; Prometheus of the Caucasus; and Mohammed or Mahomet, of Arabia."

          "The Biggest Secret" - David Icke

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          The "son of god", has really been solar mythology all along. Christianity just took it to literal.

          Lesson 1 - home1.gte.net/deleyd/reli...yth/day.html

          I thought that I provided enough links - Christianity is still a solar worshipping religion & they don't even know it.

          History of Research into Solar Mythology and the Bible -

          The knowledge that the stories in the Bible are actually allegories rooted in Solar Mythology is nothing new. There is evidence that people were well aware of it at the time of the formation of the Catholic Church. There is also evidence that these people were eliminated by the Catholic Church and all books exposing the allegory were burned.

          Charles François Dupuis (1742-1809) wrote extensively on the subject. Chapter IX of his summary work, The Origin of All Religious Worship first published in 1798, is titled, An Explanation of the Fable, in which the Sun is worshipped under the name of Christ (starting on page 214). Chapter XII of this same work gives the Solar Mythology explanation of the Book of Revelation [also known as The Apocalypse] (starting on page 408). The Book of Revelation is just Solar Mythology, and makes sense as such, and doesn't make any sense in any other way.

          Constantin François de Volney (1757-1820) also wrote about Solar Mythology and the Bible. Chapter XIII of his principal work, The Ruins; or, Meditation on the Revolutions of Empires first published in 1791, is titled, Christianity, or the Allegorical Worship of the Sun under the cabalistic names of Chrish-en or Christ and Yesus or Jesus.

          Rev. Robert Taylor (1784-1844) also figured it out. In 1828 he wrote Syntagma of the Evidences of the Christian Religion the Preface reads, “Thou hast in this Pamphlet all the sufficient evidence, that can be adduced for any piece of history a thousand years old, or to prove an error of a thousand years standing, that such a person as Jesus Christ never existed; but that the earliest Christians meant the words to be nothing more than a personification of the principle of reason, of goodness, or that principle, be it what it may, which may most benefit mankind in the passage through life.”

          home1.gte.net/deleyd/reli...history.html
          • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

            Fri, April 15, 2005 - 1:27 PM
            Sorry about mis-reading your post. I think your analysis about all this is correct, but really no revealation. Anyone who studies religions soon recognizes that each new one is built upon pieces of all the older ones, just like Islam is built upon Christianity, Judiasm, and other beliefs of the Arabs of that era. Each new religious variant likes to pretend it is unique and so much better than all the others and trys to ignore the connections to previous beliefs and practices. The connections you point out are interesting though, so thanks for the post.
            • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

              Sat, April 16, 2005 - 11:10 AM
              No worries Rene, I'm glad that you brought it up. I think a lot of folks have mis-read this thread (along with the other one). You're right, none of this is a "revelation" - to those who are already aware of it. It is very old news ...

              "A solar deity is a deity who represents the Sun. People have worshipped the Sun and solar deities for all of recorded history. Hence, many beliefs and legends have been formed around this worship." - encyclopedia.laborlawtalk.com/Sol...eity

              It is surprising how many folks in the US have no Idea of this. When more & more Christians learn about this then, we will have a real revelation.

              It will be difficult to "christianise" America when more folks learn that it is all based in much older solar mythologies. I for one am not happy with the Theocracy we now have & I wish more folks would pass around this information before our leaders try to conquer the world with christianity - the greatest story ever SOLD.

              "The "Son" of God is the "Sun" of God -

              "... The reason why all these narratives are so similar, with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula (the "Mythos," as mentioned above) revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

              For instance, many of the world's crucified godmen have their traditional birthday on December 25th ("Christmas"). This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earthcentric perspective) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that "God's sun" had "died" for three days and was "born again" on December 25th. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the "sun of God's" birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the "sun of God":

              - The sun "dies" for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
              - In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."
              - The sun is the "Light of the World."
              - The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
              - The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind."
              - The sun wears a corona, "crown of thorns" or halo.
              - The sun "walks on water."
              - The sun's "followers," "helpers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the sun must pass.
              - The sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the "Most High"; thus, "he" begins "his Father's work" at "age" 12.
              - The sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30°; hence, the "Sun of God" begins his ministry at "age" 30.
              - The sun is hung on a cross or "crucified," which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.

              Contrary to popular belief, the ancients were not an ignorant and superstitious lot who actually believed their deities to be literal characters. Indeed, this slanderous propaganda has been part of the conspiracy to make the ancients appear as if they were truly the dark and dumb rabble that was in need of the "light of Jesus." The reality is that the ancients were no less advanced in their morals and spiritual practices, and in many cases were far more advanced, than the Christians in their own supposed morality and ideology, which, in its very attempt at historicity, is in actuality a degradation of the ancient Mythos. Indeed, unlike the "superior" Christians, the true intelligentsia amongst the ancients were well aware that their gods were astronomical and atmospheric in nature. Socrates, Plato and Aristotle surely knew that Zeus, the sky god father figure who migrated to Greece from India and/or Egypt, was never a real person, despite the fact that the Greeks have designated on Crete both a birth cave and a death cave of Zeus. In addition, all over the world are to be found sites where this god or that allegedly was born, walked, suffered, died, etc., a common and unremarkable occurrence that is not monopolized by, and did not originate with, Christianity."


              Please give this a thorough read when you get a chance - www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm

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              • Re: Solar Mythology & Astrotheology

                Fri, September 30, 2005 - 4:30 PM
                Acharya S appears on the Broadband Learning Channel. See the first online video interview of Acharya S!

                In this one-of-a-kind interview, Acharya discusses her background and motivation in studying the fields of religion and mythology. She demonstrates the true origins of religious worship, both ancient and modern. Acharya also shows many common points between Christianity and Paganism.

                In this BBLC interview, Acharya discusses:

                -- Astrotheology and sun worship
                -- The Gospel story as mythology
                -- Holy Grail legends
                -- The famous Mysteries
                -- The Brotherhood network
                -- The Apostle Paul and his journeys and epistles
                -- Religious fanaticism...

                The online video - bblc.tv/rebels.htm

                Acharya S - Archaeologist, Historian, Mythologist, Linguist. Member American School of Classical Studies at Athens, Greece Fellow, Committee for the Scientific Examination of Religion. Author, "The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold" and "Suns of God: Krishna, Buddha and Christ Unveiled"
                www.truthbeknown.com

                If you like that then, you'll love The "Suns of God" DVD by Acharya with over 100 photos. A must have DVD.

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                "Acharya S is the ranking religious philosopher of our era."
                ~ John Kaminski

                "Acharya S deserves to be recognized as a leading researcher and an expert in the field of comparative mythology, on a par with James Frazer or Robert Graves--indeed, superior to those forerunners in the frankness of her conclusions and the volume of her evidence."
                ~ Barbara Walker

                "Amidst global chaos, Acharya S is the voice of reason."
                ~ Joan D'Arc

                P.P.S. You may need to download Quicktime--go to the "Help" page at BBLC. Also note that you will need Internet Explorer or Netscape, as Mozilla does not appear to work. Loading the video might take some time.

                www.truthbeknown.com/help.htm
                bblc.tv

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                Also enjoy the "Solar Mythology ~ Astrotheology" tribe - tribes.tribe.net/solarmyth...rotheology

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