http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/bdf727e9-1e0a-4a48-9898-8d82c8894e3a?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/bdf727e9-1e0a-4a48-9898-8d82c8894e3a#e56ab518-42db-4d46-a527-d75d6f0dc1af The Bible's we have today have been rewritten, edited, and translated so many times after several hundred years of being carried as oral tradition that it is impossible to say how much of it is what was there 100, 300, 500 or 3000 years ago. And no, the Bible doesn't have proof it has _evidence_. Thanks for playing. Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:55:45 GMT http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/bdf727e9-1e0a-4a48-9898-8d82c8894e3a#e56ab518-42db-4d46-a527-d75d6f0dc1af Mike 2009-07-09T06:55:45Z http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/bdf727e9-1e0a-4a48-9898-8d82c8894e3a#723a193d-12e4-4add-a088-512911711dcd I've recently did a search for proof of God, and it seems that almost nobody has any proof. I know you may find this hard to believe, but the Bible is full of solid proof of the existance of God, but modern ministers seem to think there is no proof. What constitutes proof in Biblical text, is a prediction of a future event. Prediction of the birth of Jesus, for example, written hudreds or thousands of years before his birth. The Old Testament has a lot of that sort of evidence, but it is somewhat hidden, and there is good reason for that. Humans tend to behave a certain way, which we call "human nature". The Bible has achieved a very high popularity, because it conforms to human nature. Churches rarely look at the Old Testament, they are mostly into the New Testament. Churches also rarely follow the word of Jesus, rather they follow the Apostle Paul also called Saul. Paul says the opposite of Jesus. According to the words of Paul, political leaders and religous leaders are all "ordained by God" and it is a sin not to do as they command. According to Paul, even Hitler was "ordained by God". Obviously, such words are well liked by the religious leaders and political leaders, so they promote Christianity. Christianity gets them the power and money that they want, so they promote it. Think of it as a sort of affiliate marketing program. Give people what they want, and they do the promoting for you. Some people find that objectionable, claiming that God caused wars. Possibly, however it is really mankind who was looking for an excuse for the wars, and those wars likely would have happened with or without God's help. Anyway, the need justified the means. The need easily justified many times more deaths that resulted from all wars. The proof of the existence of God, requires lots of reading, and people are rarely willing to spend the time. It was necessary to bury it, 'cause the affiliate marketing strategy wouldn't work so well if it wasn't hidden. Now that the time as come to reveal the truth, we have a difficult stituation. The highly religious people have been seriously brainwashed with a story that makes no logical sense at all. The non-religious people are resistant to anything that comes from the Bible. Still, it is obviously a whole lot easier than it would be if God didn't use that marketing strategy. Tony Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:18:45 GMT http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/bdf727e9-1e0a-4a48-9898-8d82c8894e3a#723a193d-12e4-4add-a088-512911711dcd Tony 2009-06-30T11:18:45Z