http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#f65d473d-5d99-4642-ba42-6283e61c4770 >>>>>>>>>If this artifact is genuine, from the era claimed, and actually says what is asserted, the discovery clearly demonstrates that the idea of a messiah, savior or divine redeemer dying and rising after three days existed decades before the alleged advent of Jesus Christ. This dying-and-resurrecting motif is one of a number that various writers and scholars have claimed demonstrate Jesus to represent not a "historical" personage but a mythical concept found in religious ideologies and mythologies long prior to the so-called Christian era." <<<<<<<<<< What I find most interesting here is that--in my experience--the notion that early Christians *borrowed* the dying-and-rising Savior story usually claims that it was borrowed from pagan sources, not Jewish ones. Also, *if* this turns out to be what it seems to be, it will re-open the question of why so many Jews rejected the story of Jesus rising from the dead. Further, if this is what it seems to be, it will raise the question of why so many non-Jews accepted the story. Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:36:41 GMT http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#f65d473d-5d99-4642-ba42-6283e61c4770 $item.owner.firstName 2008-07-06T17:36:41Z http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#32ca226d-280f-4d6c-bc26-1a4a4c24f103 Ancient Tablet Evidence of Jesus Myth? "An ancient Hebrew tablet is creating a stir after certain scholars identified it as containing a pre-Christian account of the awaited Jewish messiah's death and resurrection after three days. If this artifact is genuine, from the era claimed, and actually says what is asserted, the discovery clearly demonstrates that the idea of a messiah, savior or divine redeemer dying and rising after three days existed decades before the alleged advent of Jesus Christ. This dying-and-resurrecting motif is one of a number that various writers and scholars have claimed demonstrate Jesus to represent not a "historical" personage but a mythical concept found in religious ideologies and mythologies long prior to the so-called Christian era." For the rest of the blog, please see: http://tbknews.blogspot.com/2008/07/ancient-tablet-evidence-of-jesus-myth.html ; Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:58:46 GMT http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#32ca226d-280f-4d6c-bc26-1a4a4c24f103 Rocky 2008-07-06T00:58:46Z http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#a21634fc-f8c4-4587-bf02-7f0e1c0fafaa Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection July 6, 2008 "JERUSALEM — A three-foot-tall tablet with 87 lines of Hebrew that scholars believe dates from the decades just before the birth of Jesus is causing a quiet stir in biblical and archaeological circles, especially because it may speak of a messiah who will rise from the dead after three days. If such a messianic description really is there, it will contribute to a developing re-evaluation of both popular and scholarly views of Jesus, since it suggests that the story of his death and resurrection was not unique but part of a recognized Jewish tradition at the time. “Some Christians will find it shocking — a challenge to the uniqueness of their theology — while others will be comforted by the idea of it being a traditional part of Judaism,” Mr. Boyarin said. Ms. Yardeni, who analyzed the stone along with Binyamin Elitzur, is an expert on Hebrew script, especially of the era of King Herod, who died in 4 B.C. The two of them published a long analysis of the stone more than a year ago in Cathedra, a Hebrew-language quarterly devoted to the history and archaeology of Israel, and said that, based on the shape of the script and the language, the text dated from the late first century B.C. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/world/middleeast/06stone.html Enjoy the entire article. Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:22:25 GMT http://agnosticism.tribe.net/thread/62f7484a-1afd-47b9-9742-b53dab5f8360#a21634fc-f8c4-4587-bf02-7f0e1c0fafaa Rocky 2008-07-05T22:22:25Z