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  <title>The Mythicist Position: - Agnostics - tribe.net</title>
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    <title>Re: The Mythicist Position:</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Rocky</name>
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    <updated>2009-08-07T23:25:33Z</updated>
    <published>2009-08-07T23:25:33Z</published>
    <summary type="html">What is a Mythicist?&#xD;
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/mythicist.html&#xD;
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The History of Mythicism&#xD;
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/mythicism.html&#xD;
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* Join the "Solar Mythology ~ Astrotheology" tribe&#xD;
http://tribes.tribe.net/solarmythologynastrotheology &#xD;
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    <dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-08-07T23:25:33Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>Re: The Mythicist Position:</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Rocky</name>
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    <updated>2009-01-16T21:43:41Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-16T21:42:30Z</published>
    <summary type="html">That's why we already have the evemerist position - it's already widely accepted in academia. What's completely missing is the mythicist position as described above. And, if you have a look at the list you notice that none can be accounted for with any valid historical data - they are myths. &#xD;
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So, the point here is to actually have that mythicist position accepted in academia as well.</summary>
    <dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-16T21:42:30Z</dc:date>
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    <title>Re: The Mythicist Position:</title>
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    <author>
      <name>VoodooChild</name>
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    <updated>2009-01-16T19:04:22Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-16T19:04:22Z</published>
    <summary type="html">Interesting stuff to think about, Rocky.  &#xD;
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Another possibility is that both sides are right (and wrong).  It may be that it doesn't make sense to try to generalize at this level of abstraction.  Perhaps some of the gods and goddesses were based on real people and others were based on personifications of natural phenomena.  When we try to fit a complex messy phenomenon into a simple tidy box, stuff tends to slip out.</summary>
    <dc:creator>VoodooChild</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-16T19:04:22Z</dc:date>
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  <entry>
    <title>The Mythicist Position:</title>
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    <author>
      <name>Rocky</name>
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    <updated>2009-01-06T18:09:59Z</updated>
    <published>2009-01-06T18:09:59Z</published>
    <summary type="html">I have been searching for a well thoughout mythicist position to counter the theist, atheist and Euhemerus or Evemerist positions and was surprised that I was unable to find a good one anywhere. One may find these terms in dictionaries and encyclopedias but no mention of a well thoughtout mythicist position. I thought that was very odd - so I sent D.M. Murdock an e-mail and asked her about it and she organized what I consider the perfect mythicist position that works for me. It will be published in her latest book "Christ in Egypt." It takes us beyond the neverending theist/atheist debate to create a far more interesting position to take. Lets see what you think.&#xD;
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For those who don't know, here's some brief info about Euhemerus.&#xD;
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"Euhemerus was a Greek philosopher who lived about 330-260 BC who is known mainly for his radical interpretations of the Greek myths, which he felt were part of a long historical tradition by which the Gods were originally men, known for some great historical feat or some important social and cultural advancement and later raised to god-hood. This view was current in Greek intellectual circles and was popular in the early Christian period as well, probably as a way of defusing the idea of pagan religion."&#xD;
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerus &#xD;
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http://www.reference.com/browse/Euhemerism&#xD;
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This thesis developed by Euhemerus may be called "euhemerism," "evemerism" or the "evemerist position," defined as follows:&#xD;
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"Evemerism represents the perspective that many of the gods and goddesses of antiquity had been real people, such as kings, queens and other heroes and legendary figures, to whose biographies were later added extraordinary and/or supernatural attributes."&#xD;
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So, the info above may easily be found. However, you won't find any valuable information on a well thoughout mythicist position at all - I find this utterly WEIRD! I have to wonder if it's due to censorship or suppression.&#xD;
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The Mythicist Position:&#xD;
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"Mythicism represents the perspective that many gods, goddesses and other heroes and legendary figures said to possess extraordinary and/or supernatural attributes are not "real people" but are in fact mythological characters. Along with this view comes the recognition that many of these figures personify or symbolize natural phenomena, such as the sun, moon, stars, planets, constellations, etc., constituting what is called "astrotheology."  As a major example of the mythicist position, various biblical characters such as Adam and Eve, Satan, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Joshua, King David, Solomon &amp;amp; Jesus Christ, among other figures, in reality represent mythological characters along the same lines as the Egyptian, Sumerian, Phoenician, Indian, Greek, Roman and other godmen, who are all presently accepted as myths, rather than historical figures." &#xD;
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-  From "Christ in Egypt: The Horus-Jesus Connection" by D. M. Murdock&#xD;
http://stellarhousepublishing.com/christ-in-egypt-table-of-contents.html&#xD;
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Now, I really like this mythicist position. I'm going to submit it as an entry into dictionaries and encyclopedias.&#xD;
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Join the "Solar Mythology ~ Astrotheology" tribe - http://tribes.tribe.net/solarmythologynastrotheology&#xD;
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    <dc:creator>Rocky</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-01-06T18:09:59Z</dc:date>
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