Say no to Jeebus Day

topic posted Wed, December 20, 2006 - 7:36 PM by 
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Since declaring myself an existentialist atheist, I have became aware of the weird annual discussion among atheists about how they should celebrate Christmas.
Oh, no, they don't call it Christmas. They talk about celebrating the solstice. Or perhaps the new year. Or simply the holiday season. It's all so generic that it really doesn't matter. And it's all pagan in origin, right? Co-opted by the Christians.
Why do some people have the need to veil their celebrations in politically correct talk. I admit to having a fetish for blinky lights and cheesy Xmas music.

Some of my friends give solstice gifts and say approving things about pre-Christian, pagan festivals. Some of them speak fondly of Wicca (a new, fake-old religion that manages to be even sillier than Christianity and Judaism). Since all of these things are not Christianity, they are able to pretend that none of these things are religious.

What I find Atheists and Agnostics seem unwilling to ask is not how they can celebrate Christmas without having it look as though they're celebrating Christmas but why they should even try - indeed, why they should even want to try.
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    Re: Say no to Jeebus Day

    Thu, December 21, 2006 - 5:47 AM
    "I admit to having a fetish for blinky lights and cheesy Xmas music. "

    I'm with you, I decorate the tree put up house lights....even manage a trip or two to a mall. All of which makes me happy, even putting fake antlers on my horse and trying to take silly photos ( he was much to serious to put up with my silliness.)
  • Re: Say no to Jeebus Day

    Thu, December 21, 2006 - 7:46 AM
    I am an atheist like you. There is in my mind no good reason to discount Christmas. You do not have to accept even that Jesus was a real person to appreciate that the ideas embodied in the Christmas spirit are good ones. You do not have to throw away the baby with the bath water. The Christmas story is just a myth, but myths contain meaningful truths that are applicable to your life. I say celebrate the myth whole-heartedly, recognizing it for what it is- a myth. Of course, if you cannot find the meaningful and good parts of the Christmas myth, then don't celebrate it; clearly much of it has been degraded in our culture, but I feel the good is still there, there is something worthwhile there, something worth celebrating, and it is not the Solstice or the New Year that is worth the celebration, but the ideas within the Christmas myth.
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    Re: Say no to Jeebus Day

    Sat, December 23, 2006 - 11:38 AM
    Sh_az, you are right, all the reference to Xmas by those who "know" the true meaning is mind-numbing. What is interesting is that after thousands of years there is still something left of the drive to feel like celebrating some goddam thing at this time of each year. How strange, all the names and myths and cheese associated with recognizing a season associated with a particular kind of weather. Anyway, it's here again and the disingenuous are faithfully lighting candles, caroling, cooking, traveling, buying, wrapping, and generally causing a huge nuisance in traffic and everywhere else for that matter, with their artificial cheer. Boxing Day or Hogmany are other alternatives to the fol-de-rol, but it all still drives at cheer and giving. Even recognizing the season with aggravation is an acknowledgment of the bloody ancient celebratory tradition, whatever they called it. So......".Happy, happy. Joy, joy. If you ain't the grandaddy of all liars......"

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